tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post729223863895271710..comments2023-09-05T03:54:01.730-04:00Comments on uujeff's muse kennel and pizzatorium: Atheist MinistersRev. Jeff Liebmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02553505706735377096noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post-12893240816399623452012-05-01T20:30:59.735-04:002012-05-01T20:30:59.735-04:00Sad but unsurprising how badly she was treated aft...Sad but unsurprising how badly she was treated after she came out. I hope that she continues her career by becoming a UU minister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post-10190146578534251432012-05-01T12:21:16.891-04:002012-05-01T12:21:16.891-04:00Good to hear from you, Ms. Kitty. I've been d...Good to hear from you, Ms. Kitty. I've been debating switching hosts, too, as Blogger has several glitchy elements that drive me crazy.Rev. Jeff Liebmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198231263796984738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post-8578407594773311382012-05-01T12:00:27.343-04:002012-05-01T12:00:27.343-04:00Well said, Jeff. You've given me more to thin...Well said, Jeff. You've given me more to think about! By the way, you probably know me as Ms Kitty; I went over to the Gmail side and lost my original blogging identity!Lilylouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328027965155428624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post-83907446426961109882012-05-01T11:57:50.074-04:002012-05-01T11:57:50.074-04:00Lilylou, this is a good question and I have worked...Lilylou, this is a good question and I have worked hard on finding the right language for this. From an empirical sense, I simply call it the fields and forces beyond our ability to measure or comprehend. I resist using "nature" only because that term has acquired similar baggage for many that the term "god" has over the centuries. Now, from a broader, metaphysical sense, I do not differentiate between "human" and "non-human" powers. I believe that distinction is illusory and only necessary because we need a frame of reference. I feel that all existence simply is, and that we exist as part of what is. Nothing is "beyond" or "higher."Rev. Jeff Liebmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17198231263796984738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7882109133075526069.post-82641636984757851482012-05-01T11:20:16.378-04:002012-05-01T11:20:16.378-04:00What does an atheist call the power beyond human p...What does an atheist call the power beyond human power, Jeff? I don't use the word God much myself and I believe the definition has changed hugely over time, but I do know, empirically, that there is power beyond human power. For many, that's nature and I agree with that idea. I don't hear many people---atheist, anti-theist, agnostic, etc.---use that term. What do you call it?Lilylouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02328027965155428624noreply@blogger.com